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Readers' Comments
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Adam writes 14.3.06 |
Hello Zen and Wies
I am currently reading a degree in Social History and found your web site very interesting. I didn't realise there was such a period of turmoil some 50 yrs ago. Well done. |
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Sarah Hopp writes 31.3.06 |
Dear Wies and Zen,
What a fascinating history you have. I can really relate to your parents' story, my family having come from a similar background. It is presented in a really friendly and inviting way and I'm sure any reader will be touched by some of the themes you have written about.
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Norman Ratcliffe writes3.4.06 |
Hi Guys,
Great site, Love it. Well done. I will put it on next Newsletter.
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Kaz Ryzner writes 13.4.06 |
Hi Guys
I think your website is brilliant - having lived there with you I can relate to all the references you have made to living in the camp, including Mr. Karn who incidentally carried on providing a service to us (and others) who moved to Elstead.
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Andy Cunningham writes27.4.06 |
I must write to compliment you on your website, as it brought back some fun memories of Thursley, albeit much more recent than the Second World War.
My name is Andy Cunningham, I am a Corporal-Piper in the Canadian Forces, Army (Reserve), appointed Pipe Sergeant in the Lorne Scots (Peel, Dufferin, & Halton Regiment).
In April of 2004 we paraded at Tweedsmuir, where the Lorne Scots were stationed during the war, for Cmdt.(ret'd) Streatfield-James while on a visit to Thursley and other sites of significance to Canada and our Regiment in particular.
We were in England visiting our allied regiment, the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers. During this trip we visited Thursley and Bramshott, perfomed at H.M. The Tower of London, and led the Gallipoli Day Parade in Bury. Along the way we managed to sneak in some sight-seeing, including a day-trip to Edinburgh, Scotland. All of our members returned to Canada much richer for the experience.
On another note of the "small world" nature, I was surprised to find out that Tweedsmuir was used to house displaced Poles after the war. My paternal grandfather's name was Koslowski; he was an officer of the Free Polish Forces during WWII.
Well done, and good luck, on your website.
Yours Aye,
Cpl. Andy Cunningham, P/Sgt.
P&D The Lorne Scots (P,D, & H Reg't)
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Andy Cunningham writes16.5.06 |
Attached, please find a couple of pics from the Lorne Scots' visit to England in 2004. I think you'll recognize them from Thursley and HM Tower of London.
Yours Aye,
Cpl. Andy Cunningham, P/Sgt.
P&D The Lorne Scots
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Photographs courtesy of Cpl. Andy Cunningham, P/Sgt. Click on each for a larger image.
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Ted Bates writes 25.7.06 |
Hi Zen & Wies
Well done with the website. I lived in Thursley Village from 1945 until 1959 and lived in Homefield Cottages up past the church. Our family had many happy memories of Christmas parties at Tweedsmuir Camp; we also attended Sunday Mass every week at 10.30 am. Good luck
Ted Bates
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Maggie Lee (nee Adamek) writes 4.3.07 |
Hi
I have just read through your web page about life at Tweedsmuir Camp
and it brought back so many memories. My name is Margaret (I prefer
Maggie) Lee but I was Adamek and my brother Waldemar (he prefers
Waldue) and we lived at No. 2 Tweedsmuir Camp together in the sa
me hut
as the Sudniks, Naskowcz, and Glincowoska. Sorry about the spelling
but I didn't ever learn Polish as my mum was English. She used to run
the nursery.
Some of the photographs you show of Father Bystry I also have. Do you
remember the water reservoirs which were near the parade square? They
seemed so deep and although they were fenced off I was always scared of
going near them, but as children they were nice to play 'roll down' on
summer days.
My father is still alive and still lives in Elstead as does Mr Czertko
and many others. I am still in contact with Urszula Ryzner and Danuta
Czertko.
Do you remember the Crusz and the Kenseks?
I am sorry for the incorrect spellings of the of the names, but as
children we never saw them written down. I only remember how to spell
Czertko because I used to go to school with Alicia.
I well remember Mr Davies at Elstead Primary School. Also Miss Calver
and Mrs Pride. What was the name of the school secretary and nurse can you remember?
My brother told me about the web site and I am so pleased I found it.
I hope to hear from you soon. You could almost start up a Friends
Reunited for Tweedsmuir Camp!!!!
Regards
Maggie Lee (nee Adamek)
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George Jopek writes 29.3.2007 |
Dear Zen and Wies,
My name is Jerry Jopek. The Jerry was changed to George (after the King) when we entered the U.S.
Both my parents were in North Africa in the Polish Free Army under British command.
We left the camp for the States in 1958 after a 7 year stay. I was 8 and my sister 4 years old at the time.
I was born in Tel Aviv and my sister at the camp.
I found your site on a whim after looking at some of my parents' travel documents with the camp's name. We lived at 63 Tweedsmiur.
My Mother is still living at age 94 while my Father past away at age 82.
My memories of the camp are sketchy at best but there are fond memories of friends I played with and the forests we roamed as children.
I remember the ferns, I loved the smell of them, the mushrooms I picked with my mother, the chickens, rabbits and ducks they raised.
The motor bike races in the woods as they tried to climb the large hill.
I remember a creek that ran through the area in which I used to play and crossed while taking a short cut to school on a beaten path through the country side.
The paved main road that wound through the hills, the winters, summers, the rain, with spring being my favorite and still is.
I vaguely remember the school I attended where I used to get my knuckles whacked. There was a grounds keeper there who left the mower running one day and I decided to put a piece of paper into the moving cutters; I think I scared him that day.
The days that my father took us to the seaside on his motorcycle one by one, my mother first and then us since he did not have a side cart. Not to say, he did not do this often.
My dad worked in an aircraft company and used his motorcycle (as we call them here) to commute. My mother worked cleaning houses in the town and on farms picking fruit.
I am attaching some pictures with this note.
Regards
George Jopek
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Photographs courtesy of George Jopek. Click on each for a larger image.
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Richard Bond writes 9. 12. 2008 |
Hello Guys
I stumbled on your site completely by accident today - and I am so glad I did. My Mother lived at Tweedsmuir, and now lives in Milford.
The picture you show in chapter 4 of your website shows 3 boys, 1 girl and Father Bystry - one of the boys being Zen. The other two are (from right to left) my uncle Lesley Chruszcz, my other uncle (I only knew him as uncle Titch), and the little girl is my mother Christine Bond (nee Chruszcz).
She remembers the Barber coming to cut the boys' and mens' hair - Mr Bura. As far as she knows, her mother used to go in to Godalming to get her hair done.
My Grandparents moved from Tweedsmuir to Chiddingfold, then to Victoria Road in Godalming. They both sadly passed away before I was old enough to be interested in any kind of family history.
Keep up the good work.
Richard Bond
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Antoni Stasiewicz writes 20. 1. 09 |
Dear Zen and Wies
I am writing from Canada; specifically from an island called St. Joseph Island which is on northern Lake Huron in Ontario just 60 KM SE of the city of Sault Ste. Marie. I am married to a Polish girl from Latvia and am a retired Canadian military officer. You mentioned the Lorne Scots on your site. They are a fine and proud militia unit now in southern Ontario and I had the privilege of training them on one of my past postings. Your parents and mine had essentially the same war history. My father was rele
ased from Siberia to join the 2nd Polish Corps under Anders in Iraq. He was at the final capture of Monte Cassino and ended the war as part of an occupation force in Bologna. My mother was also a part of the Corps as a nurse. They were married in Italy and after the war repatriated to England. Your family went to Tweedsmuir, mine to Doddington in Cheshire. We came to Canada in 1951 when I was three and I grew up in Thunder Bay, Ontario.
This whole process of discovery started years ago before the internet. My father and Godfather insisted I was born in Doddington, my mother and my birth certificate said Diddington. One letter different, and even so I couldn't locate either place on the paper maps I had access to in Canada. It was only this year that I decided to search my roots via the internet and discovered that my mother had indeed been right but right after being released from the hospital we were transfered to Doddington.
The best of the New Year to you and yours. If you should ever have a desire to visit Canada I insist that you be our guests, although be warned we live in a very 'un-urban' and unspoiled part of Canada. As for my part we plan to to visit England in the future and drive to Diddington at least and chat up some village elders. If you don't object I will "knock you up" as you say.
Keep in touch.
Toni
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Antoni Stasiewicz writes 21. 1. 09 |
Dear Zen and Wies
I have on many occasions reflected on how often serendipity enters our lives. For example the fact that I retained a basic knowledge of the Polish language from my parents provided me with a unique opportunity in 1973. In that year the Yom Kippur War broke out in the Middle East. Canada and Poland were selected to provide the logistics roll for a large United Nations peacekeeping force that involved about a dozen nations. A call went out in the Canadian Forces for a Polish speaking officer and I was one of two that Canada had. On Friday my commanding officer asked me whether I was interested in joining the force - on Monday I found myself on an aircraft to Cairo. I became the adjutant to the Canadian commanding general and the liaison officer to the Polish contingent which was a airborne battalion. Two months into the tour an AP correspondent wanted to do a story about how Canada and Poland were working together to fulfill their UN mandate. He was put in my care and I introduced him to many of the Polish officers that by now had become my close friends an co-workers. A week before, my father had sent me a letter that in part said "thirty years ago this month I came to the Middle East to win a war now you have come to the same place to win a peace". I happened to show this letter to the correspondent and unbeknownst to me he wrote a long human interest story that was picked up by most of the large newspapers in Canada. The local newspaper in Thunder Bay found and interviewed my father about his service in the 2nd Polish Corps and together with two pictures that he provided (one of him in a Polish uniform and one of me in a Canadian uniform) we made the front page. My father often refers to that time as one of his proudest moments.
Another serendipitous moment occurred in Jerusalem when I happened to take lunch at a restaurant near the Wailing Wall. The proprietor, interested in my uniform, engaged me in conversation. I recounted a story my father told me about an eatery in old town Jerusalem that was most unusual. Instead of receiving a bill after a meal and paying the cashier on the way out, the proprietor positioned himself at a desk at the exit and asked each departing customer what he had to eat or drink and charged the amount accordingly. What struck my father about this was the degree of trust that the proprietor attributed to his customers. He never disputed the customer's accounting and although he must have been cheated on occasion, by far most people declared honestly. The young man I was talking to listened to me in astonishment then suddenly bolted upstairs and brought his aging father down to me. I soon found out that where I was now taking my meal was the same place that served my father 30 years ago. Although it was too much to expect the old man to remember my father he certainly remembered fondly the Polish Forces that regularly ate in his establishment. He told me many stories about that period and before I left located a dusty old bottle of "Spirytus" that although sealed in wax had mostly evaporated away. We cracked the bottle and toasted an inter-generational reunion.
Finally one more story on this same theme, so bear with me. In 1969 I was a student at the University of Toronto and I would spend most summers working and travelling through Mexico. On one occasion in Acapulco I placed a call home and was wishing my mother a happy birthday over a phone in a hotel lobby. I noticed a man sitting a short distance away from me having a coffee and very often looking in my direction. After the call he approached me and asked in perfect Polish "what was a young Pole doing so far from home". We sat down and started talking and soon I was relating the fact that I had a grandmother and three aunts in Zamosc, Poland. I had met my grandmother only once when I was ten when she had visited Thunder Bay. The gentleman asked what my grandmother's name was and I replied Stasiewicz. He asked "Rozalia Stasiewicz" and I said I don't know - I only knew her as "Babcia". But in describing her and relating what little I knew of her history it became apparent that he indeed probably knew my grandmother. This was later proven to be a fact. A small world - a very small world!
Regards,
Toni
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